1 Feb 2009

Lucia Lobato (AMP) Vs. Jose Belo (Tempo Semanal)

Freedom (of speech) fighter
February 1, 2009 (Husi The Age)

A crusading journalist intent on exposing official corruption faces the prospect of being sent back to the prison where he was brutalised by his country's Indonesian occupiers, writes Tom Hyland.

Sani kompletu iha The Age.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

bro...ze lalika tauk...tama deit kadeia..pois mak ami buka tuir ministra nia oan sira....lao mak biban..lae sa lasan tama ibun ho kidung dala ida.....

Anonymous said...

Ze, ba lialos avansa nafatin. Keta tauk, uluk ema ukun ita mos ita sei la tauk tamba lia los, apalagi agora tempu ita ukun-an. Keta hanoin dehan nia Lobato ne'ebe atu sejajar ho Nicolau Lobato. Lae nia Lobato ida naok ten, laos Heroi hanesan Nicolau ho Rogerio. Nia Lobato bikan, apalagi nia laen Americo. Husu tok tamba sa mak nia laen nia aman liman tuk ne'e? Tamba kaer kilat ba funu hasoru Falentil (ukun-an) mak kareta monu hodi liman tuk ne'e.Tamba nia aman Heroi ba Integrasaun mak hetan fatin nudar Camat Fatuberlihu ne'e. Laen bero-beri ne'e mos hakarak ba diskuti ho Amo Rafael, tamba nia oan nia komportamentu ladiak iha eskola, padahal sira ne'e uluk tabele ba igreja mak fo han no fo matenek.

Anonymous said...

Rogeiro heroi hotu ga?
Hau hanoin nia mak ida fahe kilat ba populasaun hodi oho malu iha 2006 nee?

Heroi nunka hanoin att ba buat seda mak nia luta ba!

hanesan confuso itoan det...konaba termo heroi no laos heroi nee!

Maun Ze se metin duni ho maun nia verdades sira nee, avansa det lalika tauk..lia los sei manan!

ba Maun ida iha comment primero nee..maun, kasar liu! kritika hanesan ema labele hanesan animal! ministra nia oan sira hatene seda! hanoin ida hanesan maun nian nee mak halo ita nia rai la ba oin nee!..
Kritika nee atu hadia laos atu halo aat liu tan..!

SURIK
(Peace det)

Anonymous said...

Hau hanoin Rogerio mos Heroi! Kestaun fahe kilat ne sei hanesan hela misteriu ida. Tamba ita hotu buka lialos, tan ne diak liu ita lalika kondena Rogerio hanesan kriminozu. Ba belum Ze, avansa...avansa...avansa! Ita atu hare tok rai ne, atu naben ka? Biar Tsunami tun husi Fatuberlihu ka Bazartete mos avansa nafatin. Lia los sei mosu mai, ministra sei sai lekiraok inan.

Anonymous said...

"Lobato was jailed on five charges of arming hit squads during the 2006 East Timorese crisis in March 2007 and sentenced seven and a half years in jail."

maun, hau lee fali artigo oan ida leten nee halo hau confuso liu tan...maun dehan katak kestaun fahe kilat nee sei hanesan misteriu ida...artigo ida hau copy nee fali dehan katak nia fahe duni kilat i hetan sentensa tinan 7 ho balu...i foin lalais nemak ita nia presidente fo fali amnestia ba nia!

ida nebe los mak tebes!

SURIK
(peace)

Anonymous said...

Rogerio Lobato nia julgamento ne politiku liu.

Nia ne dikambinghitamkan. Se nia la tama kadeia mak Xanana amiasa atu haruka ema mai sunu tan Dili hodi sunu rahun hotu Timor. Tan ne mak nia mos tenki tama kadeia i Alkatiri mos tenki tun husi PM.

Tuir lolos ema la tauk bandidu sira nebe mai sunu uma iha Dili laran. Maibe tamba sira mos mai ho kilat hamutuk tan alfredo ho salsinha, entaun populasaun mos tauk. Sira mos mengkambinghitamkan Rogerio ho Alkatiri.

Loron ida lia los tenki sai.

Ba hau Rogerio ho Alkatiri ne memang asuwain duni ba Povo Maubere tomak.

Mak ne deit.

Anonymous said...

Karik Sentensa ba Rogerio Lobato ne'e los dunik, tamba sa mak Horta fo Amnestia ema ida la kokorek tok, nein Xanana! Tamba ne'e lalika halo espetativa uluk molok lia los ne'e mosu mai. Maun Surik hau hatene didiak ita bot, so ke ita bot lahatene diak hau. Kestaun iha ne'e, mesmo ke ita nain 2 sei primo.Halo analise didiak, estuda mos historia ba ukun-an TL nian molok atu kondena Rogerio Lobato. Assim seja!

Anonymous said...

Maun se mak la htne istoria Timor nian!?! i se mak la htne katak Rogeiro nee heroi!! ema ida la kokorek kuando presidente fo amnestia ba nia tanba ema hakarak valorisa i reconhece nia hanesan heroi nacional luta ba ita nia independencia!
Mas sentensa ba Rogeiro nee existe duni i nia rasik la nega ba buat hirak nia hlao ona tanba iha evidencia no facto, hodi nune mak nia tama kadeia nee! (selae ema la naran htama nia iha kadeia!).

maun(ou primo, hanesan maun dehan) hare ba hau nia comment sra iha leten nee badak det iha hau nia letra, maun kla hanoin hau hkerek buat hirak nee no husu pergunta sra nee tanba hu la gosta rogeiro ga! nee maun tama sala ona!

hau hanesan hkarak fo det clue ba maun ida iha comment 1 and 2 nee! katak, hanusa mak heroi nacional ida bele comite fali ba krime sira hanesan nee!?!
hanusa sa mak ema diak ble monu facil ba buat aat!?!
hanusa mak ema hanesan sira nai rua nebe tur iha computador nia oin (hatutdu katak sira nee ema civilizado) bele hakerek lia fuan tolok sira hanesan ema nebe la iha educasaun!?!
hodi nune ita hotu bele aprende husi sala nebe ita nia maun bot sira halo ona, atu nune ita la bele monu ba sala nebe hanesan!

Maun, kritika nee atu harii, laos atu sobu!

note: hau totalmente la htne maun nee see (anonymous)! se karik ita primo duni entaun maun kisuk tok code ou clue ruma pra hau hatene.. tanba hau hanoin maun sala ema karik!

SURIK
(Peace det)

Anonymous said...

Maun Ze, pasensi ona.. kala kadeia hein ita... ema dehan ita buka naran maibe fila tama kadei laran. Hahahahaaa....... halimar deit.

Hau hakarak maun Ze tama tiha kadeia mak diak.., hodi nune'e ita bele koalia.


GBU.., Ze Belo..!




Bombastick99'

Anonymous said...

Olha maun alin sira hotu timor oan nebe mak hu respeita, hau sente contente no haksolok le'e comentario sira nebe mak imi hakerek iha leten, imi bele koalia buat hotu ou kritika buat hotu nebe mak acontese diak ou at iha ita nia rain timor leste, maibe hu so hakarak husu favor ba Imi atu fo comentario labele tolok respeita mos ema seluk nia dignidade, maske sira halo sala mos sira humano hnesan ita, ita labele tolok atu mane liu liu feto dhn nia ministra bikan, bainhira ita atu hsai liafuan hnesan ne ba ema seluk ita mos tenki hre fila fali ba ita nia INAN e FETON sira, sira mos feto hnesan Ministra nebe ita boot tolok. problema nebe mak ministra halo ne la sangkut paut ho Nia oan sira, maske inan ba oan sira, maibe oan sira la htene buat nebe mak nia inan halo, ita labele fo todan ba oan sira, se maun sente bele halo ba ema seluk nia oan, maun coragem simu ema seluk halo ba maun nia Oan sira? ne mak tenki hnaoin didiak analiza didiak liafuan wainhira atu fo coment ba ema e kritika ba ema... maun bele kritik ne maun nia direito maibe usa dirito nebe atu desemvolve laos direito atu estraga... mak ne deit hau nia liafuan hato'o ba maun alin sira nebe mak fo comentario iha block tatoli ne'e. hau nia hkoak boot ba imi hotu nudar ita Timor aon lorosae...

Anonymous said...

Se Rogerio nia Tribunal ne politiku, ne komik fali. Juiz Ivo Rosa ida pro-Fretilin mak tau nia ba prisaun, oinsa mak politiku????

Hare didiak mak koalia, lalika hela ia Irlandi ka Ingris, loron kalan servisu, mak halo komentar tun sae.

Peace,
Maubere-Foho

Anonymous said...

Freed media is important to the proper function of democracy. Our independence owes a lot to free media which indonesia tried very hard to repress. although tTimor is now independent, the role of the media is still crucial to peace and democracy. Free media means that the people can be informed of the the political choices that are available to them in regards to the different parties, candidates, policies, ideas, values, etc. Xanana should pressure his minister to drop the charge and eliminate this repressive and stupid law.

Anonymous said...

hau haree maluk sira nia komentariu nee mesak garganta hotu deit, tanba sira la haree no sinte realidade ne'ebe akonese iha rai laran. hau sinte ita labele foti liman hodi hatudu ba ema ida wainhira ita bazeia ba artigu ruma ne'ebe sala. maibe presiza mos tau ita nia hanoin katak, molok atu hatudu liman ba ema ida ita mos tenki korije lai ita nia aan, tanba ita hatudu nee liman sanak ida deit mak ba maibe iha sanak haat mak fila hela ba ita nia aan rasik.
hosi ida nee hau bele hateten, iha parte ida Sr. Jose Belo, iha diritu atu halo publiksaun konaba artigu saida deit mak nia sinte atu publika. soke nia haluhan tiha etika perss ne'ebe mak iha.
nia publiksaun nee rasik la tuir ona pers nia hanorin. tanba la iha konfirmasaun uluk ho nia fontes.

Anonymous said...

sira be comment iha primeiro e segundo ne kal ema beik ida karik ne laos ema maibe animal............ hanesan ne mos hakarak comment ne, e pior liu mak hakarak kritika fali ema seluk nebe la level ho sira rua ne. ne keta laran moras karik....Hanesan comment sira seluk ne mak diak, kritika para buka lia los.

Hau hakarak dehan deit........ atu hanunsa fali ka: HOURI ULUK, HOURI WAIN, AGORA NO TINAN BA TINAN NARAN LOBATO NE SEMPRE IHA TIMOR LESTE NIA HISTORIA. LAIHA TAN NARAN SELUK ,SO DEIT "LOBATO". ITA HOTU LUTA DUNI BA RAI IDA NE, MAIBE QUANDO NARAN "LOBATO" NE LAIHA KARIK, TIMOR LA UKUN AN....... EMA HOTU-HOTU HATENE IDA NE'E......HUSU TOK BA SIRA IDA BE UKUN AGORA NE'E: MAUN BOOT XANANA, XAVIER, RAMOS HORTA OU POVO TIMOR KATAK NE LOS KA LAE? "LOBATO SIRA NE'E" HADOMI TIMOR, LUTA HODI HETAN UKUN AN TO MATE......TO'O FAMILIA LOBATO SIRA MOHU.... FAMILIA MOHU TO ATU LAIHA TIHA.... PARA HETAN DEIT UKUN RASIK AN. HODI OHIN LORON IMI BELE HETAN DIAK NE E KOALIA HANESAN EMA SANTO E IMI BELE HAMNASA LOS NE.
NEBE QUANDO TEMI NARAN NE KUIDADO, LABELE TEMI HALIMAR..

Anonymous said...

We all share the plight of Jose Belo but we cannot condemn Lucia Lobato for what she is seeking. She cannot be forced to drop the charges she made through the court.

She has been publicly accused of corruption by the "hero hournalist" Jose Belo, using the previlage of his newspaper without any proper investigation and verification.

In any democracy, the acused (victim) reserves the right to defend him/herself, and the court is the most just way to resolve it. How can one talk of democracy and justice, if he/she at the same timedenies the right of an accused to seek justice?

I regret the fact that some high & profile journalists have been using their previlage to defend Jose Belo and attack Minister Lobato upproportionally. I regret that people of the calibre like Allan Nairn has also been involved in such a campaighn to discredit Minister Lobato, for the sake of free journalism and his "colegiality" with Mr Belo.

Be more balanced please! ALso, please remain yourself that Mrs Lobato has been "defamed" publicly, so she has the right to defend herself.

Jose Belo should defend himself before the court and make use of the court to denounce Mrs Lobato, plus prove that he is right.

This is what we call democracy, not taking sides on the basis of taste.

Maubere-Foho

Anonymous said...

Los duni irmao..ida cmmnt dehan LOBATO nia familia hadomi timor to mate mohu... ita labele nega..,maibe hau sente laos deit lobato nia familia deit karik, timor barak mos mate e lakon familia hotu..maibe como sira nia naran la boot hanesan LOBATO...ema haluha tia deit........ita boot..koalia cmmnt hanesan fali tamba LOBATO nia familia mate mohu be...ninia familia sira sei moris nee bele "NAOK AVONTADI"..ita tengke husik deit....ne sala boot...ema funu, terus e mate...laiha ida ke liu ida fali....LOBATO=KILIK=SARGENTO AQUILES=FERA LAFAEK=KONIS=DAVID ALEX...., entaun sira nia familia bele husu osan 3 juta dollar ba governo, bele hetan projecto single source, bele oho ema pois hetan amnestia.........sei hanesan ne karik ita nia rain atu ba nebe.....

"LAIHA EMA IDA KE ASS LIU LEI"...

mak ne deit obrgdo......

bom fim d semana....

VIVA TIMOR...., SE DEIT MAK SALA TENGKE BA HASORU TRIBUNAL.....


TELES_KAY

Anonymous said...

I agree with comment above!

maun nee los duni katak : o atu Lobato ka Gusmao ka Xavier k Horta Ka se se det..ita hotu hanesan iha lei nia okos!

SURIK
(peace det)

Anonymous said...

i still stand by the comment that media is important to proper function of democracy. of course Lobato should retain her right to defend herself/ clear her name in the court of law. What im concerned about is the fact that Belo has to face a criminal charge rather than a civil charge. To be imprisoned for what he has done if found guilty to me seems beyond harsh.....This law should be abolished. Im sure govenrment can repalce this law with one that does not involve criminal charge nor jail term.

Anonymous said...

Lobato iha ministru mesak laiha kakutak.. generasi timor oan sira keta tuir ema ida sei lahate servicu ho gosta trata malu.
pathetic person is the person who always tell he/she can do his/her job but in the end there is nothing he/she can do..what a loser.

Anonymous said...

Problema mak Americo Lopes ne'e mata duitan. Lucia Lobato Lopes korban kelicikan nia laen.

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Anonymous said...

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